Honda Stock Ignition Timing

Posted by Richard 2 February, 2010
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When installing a performance chip, most of the times it is required that the distributor ignition timing be at the stock setting. This is brought here, because prior to installing a chip, many car owners, often do a manual timing advance (global setting) in an attempt to make more power out of the engine. Other times, it is caused because of a mechanical fix that required removal of the ignition assembly and it is left unadjusted when it is installed back.

This should be reverted if a performance chip is used, since the chip advance timing in various points by itself already and adding any extra manual advance will possibly result in dangerous detonations, also known as engine pinging or pre-ignition. This, could be very destructive for the engine at high speeds.

Here are some tables showing the stock setting of some Honda cars that are chipped often.

92-95 Civic EX (P28 Chip, D16Z6 1.6 L SOHC VTEC Engine) and
92-95 Civic DX (P06 Chip, D15B7 1.5L SOHC Engine)

Degrees BTDC @RPM Automatic @ RPM Manual
16° 650-750 620-720

 

92-95 Civic CX (P05 Chip, D15B8 1.5L SOHC Engine)

Degrees BTDC @RPM Automatic @ RPM Manual
12° 650-750 620-720

94-95 Civic Del Sol (P30 Chip, B16A3 1.6L DOHC VTEC Engine)

Degrees BTDC @RPM Automatic @ RPM Manual
16° 650-750 620-720

All 94-95 Accord EX/LX (P0A, P0B Chips, F22 2.2L Engine)

Degrees BTDC @RPM Automatic @ RPM Manual
13°-17° 650-750 620-720

All 93-94 Prelude S/Si (P12, P13, P14 Chips, H22, H23 2.2L/2.3L Engines)

Degrees BTDC @RPM Automatic @ RPM Manual
13°-17° 650-750 620-720

93-95 Honda Prelude Ignition Timing Adjustment

For doing the adjustment on Prelude, you will need a timing light. The car must first be warmed up until the fan turns on. Timing marks for timing light are exposed by removing the rubber cap from inspection window on the cylinder block, by the bell housing. Also, the ignition timing check connector must be jumped. It is located under center of dash. See the drawing below for its location.

Honda Prelude Ignition Check connector

Connect jumper wire between the Blue/White and Brown/White wire terminals.

To adjust timing, loosen distributor hold-down bolts and turn distributor housing counterclockwise to advance or clockwise to retard timing. Align the pointer with the Red timing mark.

When the job is done, tighten the distributor bolts to 16 ft. lbs. (22 N.m). and recheck timing.

If it is all OK, remove the jumper from the ignition timing check connector. Reinstall the cap into inspection window on the cylinder block.

94-95 Honda Accord Ignition Timing Adjustment

Adjustment for the Accord is similar to the Prelude described above, with exception that timing marks are located on the timing belt cover itself and the service connector is located somewhere else. It is located under the glove compartment, as shown below:

Honda Accord Service connector

 

92-95 Civic Ignition Timing Adjustment

Again, the Civic procedure is no different from the two above. As in the Accord, ignition timing marks are located on the timing belt cover itself. The ignition check connector is located different. You will find it on the right side (passenger’s side) kick panel, near the ecu. Check the drawing below for location:

Honda Civic Ignition Check connector


Here are the timing marks on the 1992 – 1995 Honda Accord:

 

 

 

1992 - 1995 Honda Accord Ignition Marks

On the above picture, the red mark is 15 degrees BTDC, while the white mark is TDC (0 degrees BTDC). If colors are faded, you may clean the area from dirt and/or grease and highlight each with white and red chalk, so it shines through the timing light. Remember that the last mark at the right should be the white one (TDC).

 
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Comments
May 4, 2009

Hi, interesting post. I have been wondering about this topic,so thanks for writing. I’ll certainly be subscribing to your blog.

PostedbyHow...
May 12, 2009

great info! thanks ever so much for everything. looked everywhere till i found the specs that i needed.
gOD BLESS…
MarCus Miller

Postedbymarcus
June 4, 2009

Great info! This has everything I needed to know to check the timing. Well, except for one minor detail. It would be very helpful, if you could show a graphic of where the inspection window is located. I can’t find it. And no timing marks show up when checking the timing from other angles. I have a 94 honda accord ex

PostedbyHenry Mosqueda
June 4, 2009

Hello Henry. The window part is for the Prelude. Your Accord should have the timing pointer on the timing belt cover, unless it is broken or not present for any reason.

Actually, the last picture on the article is from a 1994-1995 Accord. Yours should be similar. Anyway, I will do some research. If I find something will post a comment here.

Best regards and thanks for writing.

Richard

Postedbyadmin
September 28, 2009

Hi, I need information about where are the obd 1 to accord 1995 coupe

PostedbyJuan pagan
September 28, 2009

Hello Juan, welcome to this blog.

I am afraid that I did not fully understand your question. If by OBD 1 you are referring to the data link or diagnostic connector, it is located behind the glove compartment and has three wires.

If it is not what you are looking for, please let me know.

Regards,

Richard

1995 Honda Accord Diagnostic Data Link Connector
Postedbyadmin
October 11, 2009

Have 94 Civic EX. Had to replace the distributor on the car. On setting the timing… Do I set it right on TDC or the 16 degree mark (RED) mark as shown on your sketch?
Thanks
Gilbert

PostedbyGilbertcb
October 11, 2009

Hello Gilbert.

You should use the red mark. At idle, it must align with the pointer, provided that you already warmed up the engine and jumped the service connector. If it doesn’t align, then you should loosen the distributor to adjust until the red mark aligns. If there are three red marks, try to align the center one. The other two are maximum and minimum accepted alignments.

Cheers,

Richard

Postedbyadmin
March 15, 2010

how do i fix the timing on a 95 honda prelude si

PostedbyJorge RAMIREZ
May 29, 2010

Can adjusting the valves on a 93 honda civic throw the timing off? i adjusted the valves, and now the car wont start.

Postedbychris
July 28, 2010

Very good post. Honda Accord has got decent looks and great pick up.

PostedbyHimani
August 7, 2010

Hi I need to change distributor on my Honda Accord EXI 1992 series.
Have conflicting info on location. Can you tell me where it is and also any tips on replacement. Cheers

PostedbyManny
August 7, 2010
Hello Manny. I have the information for the 1992 Honda Accord LX. I am not sure if there would be any variant from yours, but here it is:

Location? It is at the right side of the engine (passenger side), parallel with the valve cover.

Ignition Distributor Location

1. Disconnect the wiring harness connector from distributor.
2. Disconnect spark plug wires (mark them in case markings are not clearly visible for the moment of reinstall them).
3. Disconnect ignition coil wire from distributor cap.
4. Remove the 3 distributor hold down bolts.
5. Replace the distributor
6. When installing the new distributor, coat the NEW O-Ring seal with oil and put in place.
7. Put back the bolts, the spark plug wires and the harness.
8. Adjust timing:

The following is the ignition timing adjustment as written in the manual:

A. Remove the rubber cap from inspection window on bellhousing of cylinder block (this to see the timing markings)
B. Warm the engine until cooling fan comes on.
C. Connect a jumper wire between ORANGE/RED and GREEN/WHITE wire terminals if ignition timing check connector located in the passenger side-kick panel. See the picture below.

Honda Accord Timing check connector

D. Connect a timing light to No. 1 spark plug wire and check base timing. The white mark is TDC and the red mark is the actual timing. Those markings are in the flywheel on Manual Transmission cars and on Automatics, it is on the drive plate.

1992 Honda Accord Timing Marks

E. Loosen the hold-down bolts and rotate distributor to adjust to the needed value which is 13 to 17 degrees at 700-800 RPMs.
F. Tighten the distributor and disconnect the jumper on the timing check connector.

Below is an exploded view of the 1992 Honda Accord EX distributor.

1992 Honda Accord Distributor Exploded View

I hope this helps. As I mentioned, this is for an Accord EX, USA Market. Not sure if it works on Australian, European or Japanese market cars.

PostedbyRichard
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